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What are Nvidia G-Sync and AMD FreeSync and which do I need?

What are Nvidia G-Sync and AMD FreeSync and which do I need?

There are many ways to compensate for the disconnect between screen updates and gameplay frame rate, ranging from the brute force method of simply capping your game's frame rate to match your monitor's refresh rate to the more intelligent realm of variable refresh rate. VRR enables the two to sync to prevent artifacts like tearing (where it looks like parts of different screens are mixed together) and stutter (where the screen updates at perceptibly irregular intervals). These efforts range from basic in-game frame rate control to pricey hardware-based implementations like Nvidia G-Sync Ultimate and AMD FreeSync Premium.

Which do you want?

When picking a monitor, which VRR system to look for comes down to which graphics card you own -- especially now when you can't really buy a new GPU -- and which games you play, plus the monitor specs and choices available. G-Sync and G-Sync Ultimate and FreeSync Premium and Pro are mutually exclusive; you'll rarely (if ever) see variations of the same monitor with options for both. In other words, every other decision you make pretty much determines which VRR scheme you get.

Basic VRR

Basic VRR enables games to use their own methods of syncing the two rates, which on the PC frequently means the game just caps the frame rate it will allow. One step up from that is generic adaptive refresh rate, which uses extended system-level technologies to vary the screen update rate based on the frame rate coming out of the game. This can deliver a better result than plain VRR as long as your frame rates aren't all over the place within a short span of time.

G-Sync Compatible and FreeSync

In the bottom tier of Nvidia and AMD's VRR technologies you'll find improved versions of adaptive refresh, branded G-Sync Compatible and FreeSync. They use the GPU's hardware to improve VRR performance, but they're hardware technologies that are common to both Nvidia and AMD GPUs, which means you can use either supported by the monitor, provided one manufacturer's graphics card driver allows you to enable it for the other manufacturer's cards. Unlike FreeSync, though, G-Sync Compatible implies Nvidia has tested the monitor for an "approved" level of artifact reduction.

G-Sync and FreeSync Premium

The first serious levels of hardware-based adaptive refresh are G-Sync and FreeSync Premium. They both require manufacturer-specific hardware in the monitor that works in conjunction with their respective GPUs in order to apply more advanced algorithms, such as low-frame rate compensation (AMD) or variable overdrive (Nvidia) for better results with less performance overhead. They also have base thresholds for monitor specs that meet appropriate criteria. G-Sync still only works over a DisplayPort connection for monitors because it uses DisplayPort's Adaptive Sync, however, which is frustrating because it does work over HDMI for some TVs.

At CES 2022, Nvidia launched its next-generation 1440p G-sync Esports standard with Reflex Latency Analyzer (Nvidia's technology for minimizing lag of the combined keyboard, mouse and display)  and a 25-inch mode that can simulate that size display on a larger monitor. Normalizing high-quality 1440p 27-inch displays for esports is a great step up from 1080p and 25 inches. The initial monitors which will be supporting it (the ViewSonic Elite XG271QG, AOC Agon Pro AG274QGM, MSI MEG 271Q, all with a 300Hz refresh rate, and the Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG27AQN) haven't shipped yet.

(Mini rant: This name scheme would make a monitor "G-Sync Compatible-compatible," so you'll see the base capability referred to as a "G-Sync Compatible monitor." That's seriously misleading, because that means you're frequently called on to distinguish between uppercase and lowercase: G-Sync Compatible is not the same as G-Sync-compatible.)

G-Sync Ultimate and FreeSync Premium Pro

At the top of the VRR food chain are G-Sync Ultimate and FreeSync Premium Pro. They both require a complete ecosystem of support -- game and monitor in addition to the GPU -- and primarily add HDR optimization in addition to further VRR-based compensation algorithms.

The hardware-based options tend to add to the price of a monitor, and whether or not you need or want them really depends upon the games you play -- if your games don't support these technologies it's kind of pointless to pay extra for them -- how sensitive you are to artifacts and how bad the disconnect is between your display and the gameplay. 

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Lenovo Ideapad 100S review: A budget laptop with great battery life

Lenovo Ideapad 100S review: A budget laptop with great battery life

There was a time, not too many years ago, when $999 was considered the cutoff price for a budget laptop. How times, and expectations, have changed. Today, along with $50 Amazon Fire tablets and sub-$200 smartphones, it's possible to get a reasonably functional PC experience for much less than you might think.

The latest example of this new low-cost computer trend is the Lenovo Ideapad 100S, an 11-inch clamshell laptop that sells for $199 in the US (£179 in the UK, AU$299 in Australia). It's among the most refined of the ultra-budget PCs, but it's not the first. Note that as of December 2015, Lenovo is selling the system online for a discounted price of $179 in the US.

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The $200-and-less (using US prices) computer has been growing category since mid-2014, anchored by products such as the $200 HP Stream 11 laptop and the Intel Compute Stick, a tiny desktop PC that can be found for as little as $119. All run Windows 10 and Intel Atom or Celeron processors, and are intended primarily for web surfing and cloud apps (note the very small amount of onboard storage, ranging from 8GB to 32GB).

The advantage is, unlike a similarly priced Chromebook (a simple laptop running Google's Chrome OS, which is essentially the Chrome web browser and little else), you can install and run regular Windows software, such as photo editing programs or alternate web browsers, as long as they'll fit on the tiny hard drives. You won't be doing pro-level photo editing or playing PC games, but at these prices, there's virtually no good reason to go for a Chrome OS system instead if you only have $200 to spend.

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With a colorful chassis (our model was bright red) that doesn't feel too flimsy, and a typically excellent Lenovo keyboard design, this could easily be the clear winner in the ultra-budget category, if not for one issue. The touchpad here is not a simple clickpad-style model, as seen in the HP Stream 11 and nearly every other laptop available today. Instead, it's an older design with separate left and right mouse buttons. But more importantly, the older touchpad design does not currently support common gestures such as two-finger scrolling. For someone who does a lot of long-form reading online, that can be a deal breaker, but you'll have to judge for yourself if the excellent keyboard makes up for it.

Lenovo Ideapad 100S

Price as reviewed	$199
Display size/resolution	11.6-inch 1,366 x 768 screen
PC CPU	1.33GHz Intel Atom Z3735F
PC Memory	2048MB DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz
Graphics	32MB (dedicated) Intel HD Graphics
Storage	32GB SSD
Networking	802.11ac wireless, Bluetooth 4.0
Operating system	Microsoft Windows 10 Home (32-bit)

Design and features

The challenge of any ultra-budget laptop is to look and feel like it costs just a little more than it actually does. No one is expecting a unibody aluminum chassis or sleek edge-to-edge glass over the display -- but a flimsy hinge, a lid that bends and flexes when you move it, or a creaky body that feels like it won't stand up to even modest handling isn't worth it at any price.

Lenovo avoids those missteps by building the 100S into a body that's a little larger and thicker than some other 11-inch laptops, giving the system some protective bulk. The sturdy hinges also fold back a full 180 degrees to lie flat, so you get a lot of useful viewing angles. The matte red outer color, which covers the back of the lid and the bottom panel, is fingerprint-resistant, and the darker red color also looks more upscale than the glossy black plastic on so many budget laptops.

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Inside, the keyboard keeps the same basic design as most other Lenovo laptops, with widely spaced island-style keys that curve out just a bit at the bottom on each key, giving you a little more usable surface to hit. It's miles beyond the keyboard on HP's Stream 11, for example.

The touchpad, however, is the single biggest stumbling block for the 100S. The pad loses valuable surface area by breaking its left and right mouse click functions out into separate physical buttons. It's a style of touchpad you rarely see any more, and for good reason. The pad here is also not set up for multitouch gestures. That's important to note, as the standard two-finger scroll won't work, nor will tapping two fingers on the pad for a right-click action. It makes the system harder to use when scrolling down long Web pages, and it's a deficiency to seriously consider before buying.

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You also can't expect much from the screen on an ultra-budget laptop, although the basic 1,366x768 display here is fine for the price. It has a pleasing matte finish that keeps glare to a minimum, but it's also confined to limited viewing angles compared to the IPS (in-plane switching) displays on more expensive laptops, which means that the image gets washed out quickly when you view the screen from side angles.

Ports and connections

Video	HDMI
Audio	Combo headphone/microphone jack
Data	2 USB 2.0,  microSD card reader
Networking	802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth
Optical drive	None

Connections, performance and battery

While the thicker chassis could fit in more, you're limited to a budget-feeling pair of USB 2.0 ports, an HDMI output and a micro-SD card slot. Faster USB 3.0 and a full-size SD card slot would be have been handy, but a reach considering the price. One of the USB ports will most likely be used for an external mouse to make up for the hard-to-use touchpad.

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The only option offered right now is the chassis color, in white, red, blue and silver. All models include the same Intel Atom Z3735 CPU, 2GB of RAM and 32GB of solid-state storage, which matches up with other ultra-budget PCs.

In benchmark testing with other low-cost Intel Atom and Celeron systems, the Lenovo 100S hung around the middle of the pack. To get a significant boost in performance, you'd have to look towards something like the Surface 3, the Atom-powered entry level version of Microsoft's Surface line, which uses a faster Atom processor and more RAM, but also costs more than twice as much, even without adding a keyboard cover. In hands-on testing, the 100S ran well when used for casual websurfing and online tasks, but it's important to keep a few best practices in mind -- especially that Microsoft's own browsers, Edge and Internet Explorer, tend to run much smoother on low-power Windows laptops.

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Battery life was a pleasant surprise in the Lenovo 100S. The system ran for 11:17 on our offline video playback battery drain test, which is near MacBook territory, and for 9:57 in an online streaming playback test. The HP Stream 11 ran for 7:58 in the offline test, and the Surface 3 for 7:41. The advantage in all these cases is that Intel's lower-performance CPUs are almost always very efficient at sipping battery power, so these systems tend to run for a long time on a single charge.

Conclusion

Spending less than $200 on a laptop is a surprisingly viable option right now, and for those who mainly use Gmail, Facebook, Netflix and Amazon (or your own list of mail, social media, streaming video and online shopping tools), a laptop with an Intel Atom processor, low-res screen and paltry 32GB of storage may very well be all you need.

Of the current ultra-budget options, the overall design and build quality of the Lenovo Ideapad 100S is my favorite, but the dated, non-gesture-supporting touchpad can be a deal breaker if you plan to scroll through long online articles or Facebook feeds. If the next generation of 100S swaps in a modern touchpad, it would get my highest budget-laptop recommendation. As it is, my generally very positive impressions come with a large asterisk.

Multimedia Multitasking test 3.0

Acer Aspire Switch 10 Special Edition 1191 Microsoft Surface 3 1220 Lenovo Ideapad 100S 2182 Asus Transformer Book Flip TP200 2881 HP Stream 11 3742

Note: Shorter bars indicate better performance (in seconds)

Apple iTunes encoding test

Microsoft Surface 3 300 HP Stream 11 342 Asus Transformer Book Flip TP200 346 Lenovo Ideapad 100S 428 Acer Aspire Switch 10 Special Edition 450

Note: Shorter bars indicate better performance (in seconds)

Video playback battery drain test

Lenovo Ideapad 100S 677 Asus Transformer Book Flip TP200 546 HP Stream 11 478 Microsoft Surface 3 461 Acer Aspire Switch 10 Special Edition 442

Note: Longer bars indicate better performance (in minutes)

System Configurations

Lenovo Ideapad 100S	Microsoft Windows 10 Home (32-bit); 1.3GHz Intel Atom Z3735F; 2GB DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz; 32MB (dedicated) Intel HD Graphics; 32GB SSD
Acer Aspire Switch 10 Special Edition	Microsoft Windows 10 Home (32-bit); 1.3GHz Intel Atom Z3735F; 2GB DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz; 32MB (dedicated) Intel HD Graphics; 64GB SSD
Asus Transformer Book Flip TP200	Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-bit); 1.6GHz Intel Celeron N3050; 4GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz; 144MB (dedicated) Intel HD Graphics; 64GB SSD
HP Stream 11	Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-bit); 2.16GHz Intel Celeron N2840; 2GB DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz; 64MB (dedicated) Intel HD Graphics; 32GB SSD
Microsoft Surface 3	Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-bit); 1.6GHz Intel Atom Z8700; 4GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz; 32MB (dedicated) Intel HD Graphics; 128GB SSD

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Amazon's new Ring camera is actually a flying drone -- for inside your home

Amazon's new Ring camera is actually a flying drone -- for inside your home

Update, Sept. 28, 2021: Amazon hosted an event today to show off the latest editions to its growing lineup of devices as well as updates on its services. You can read a recap on our event coverage page. Original story follows.    

Read more:  Amazon's smart products lead the market even as trust in the company lags

Ring introduced a new product to its growing roster of smart home devices -- the Ring Always Home Cam. Unlike the Amazon company's other security cameras, the Always Home Cam is a flying camera drone that docks when it isn't in use. The Ring Always Home Cam will be available in 2021 for $250. 

Along with this hardware announcement, Ring says you'll be able to turn on end-to-end encryption in the Ring app's Control Center "later this year" in an effort to improve the security of its devices. 

Read more: Amazon's Ring drone camera sets a bad precedent for privacy

A bit of Ring history

Before Ring was Ring, it was a startup called Bot Home Automation. Bot Home's inaugural product, the 2014 Doorbot, was among the first video doorbells on the market. It had a lot of problems, however -- clunky design, limited features and poor performance. Then Bot Home rebranded to Ring, was purchased by Amazon and now sells a growing variety of smart home security and automation devices and related accessories.

Ring has been in the news for its Neighbors program partnership with law enforcement agencies, which allows Ring customers to share their saved video clips. Privacy advocates express concern about how Ring and law enforcement agencies collect and use the information they gather. Ring also has patents for facial recognition technology that would scan through law enforcement databases. 

Security has also been a big topic of conversation, following user data being exposed in December 2018. This prompted Ring to require two-factor authentication and add a privacy and security Control Center in the app where customers can more easily find and make changes to their personal account settings. 

The Always Home Cam and end-to-end encryption

Ring says the Always Home Cam travels on a set path you designate -- it can't be controlled manually -- and you can view the feed live in the Ring app. "The path is entirely determined by the customer ... you actually walk the device around your home and ... train it on that path and can set different waypoints for the camera to fly to," Ring President Leila Rouhi told me over the phone. 

It has HD live streaming and a 5-minute runtime, and takes about an hour to charge. Rouhi said that short runtime was deliberate, to make it a "purpose-driven security camera." 

It can work with the Ring Alarm security kit, so that if activity is detected while your security system is set to away mode, the Always Home Cam is supposed to leave its dock and fly around to see what's happening. 

As far as privacy goes, the Always Home Cam's camera is hidden when it's docked and should only begin to record when it leaves the dock and flies around your house. It's designed to hum so you know when it's flying and recording. The camera is also equipped with "obstacle avoidance technology," so it should avoid things in its path. If it does sense an obstacle in the way of its normal path, the camera will return to its dock and send an alert, letting you know it couldn't complete its pass around your home. 

Ring has also added a video encryption page to its Control Center privacy and security landing page. After end-to-end encryption becomes available later this year, customers should be able to turn on the feature for each individual compatible device. Ring will be providing a list of compatible devices later this year.

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OnePlus Watch: Premium looks without the premium price

OnePlus Watch: Premium looks without the premium price

OnePlus has entered the wearables market with its new OnePlus Watch, a seemingly high-end smartwatch in both looks and features, but at a lower price than the competition. The $159 (£149, roughly AU$270) OnePlus Watch has a lot going for it. It has a sleek design, advanced health sensors to keep tabs on blood oxygen and stress levels, and a week-long (or more) battery life that could put the Samsung Galaxy Watch and Apple Watch to shame.

But it's not without its shortcomings. It's not compatible with iOS devices (yet), and has fewer third-party apps. 

In addition to its new watch, OnePlus has also introduced two new phones, the OnePlus 9 and OnePlus 9 Pro.

Simple, circular design  

At first glance, the OnePlus Watch bears a striking resemblance to the Galaxy Watch Active, Samsung's $250 sports watch. It has a round watch face and AMOLED touchscreen enclosed in a stainless steel frame. But unlike the Galaxy Watch Active, which comes in two sizes, the OnePlus Watch is only available in a 46mm case with interchangeable watch bands that can be swapped out for third-party alternatives. The watch also lacks a rotating bezel or digital crown and you'll have to use either the touchscreen or two side buttons to navigate. It feels comfortable to wear, but I was surprised by how massive it looked once I strapped it on my medium-sized wrist.

OnePlus

Basic smartwatch functionality 

The OnePlus Watch does everything you'd expect a smartwatch to do in 2021: display and respond to notifications, make and answer phone calls, play music and serve as a remote for your phone camera and OnePlus TV. But it doesn't have Spotify support or any other music app, for that matter. Instead it comes with 2GB of internal storage for music. That translates to about 500 songs, which you can listen to on the go when paired with Bluetooth earbuds. It's only compatible with OnePlus and other Android phones for now, but the company says iOS support will come in time. 

Health and fitness features go beyond the basics

The watch also does your basic fitness tracking with over 110 different workout types to choose from and automatically logs your runs regardless of whether or not you have your phone with you. It has built-in GPS and a 5ATM IP68 rating, which makes it safe for swim tracking. 

It also goes beyond the basics and can measure SpO2 (blood oxygen levels) on demand, as well as detect stress levels and flag abnormally high heart rates. We'll report back on accuracy on both fitness and health features once we're able to test it out for ourselves. 

Battery life for days  

The other big selling point for the OnePlus Watch, aside from its price tag, is its battery life. Even if it doesn't last the two weeks of normal use that the company claims (one week firing at all cylinders), it's still miles ahead of the Galaxy Watch 3 and Apple Watch, which barely make it to the 48-hour mark. 

The watch also charges fast: You can get a full day of power from five minutes on the charger, or wait 20 minutes for a week's worth of charge.

Time will tell

The One Plus Watch seems to check all the boxes when it comes to price, features and design, but the jury's still out on whether or not the company's first smartwatch can deliver on all of its promises. Once I finish testing it out, I'll be able to tell you whether it's as good of a deal as it sounds. 

The OnePlus Watch goes on sale April 14. It's available from OnePlus. 

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Stop Third-Party iPhone Apps From Accessing Your Data

Stop Third-Party iPhone Apps From Accessing Your Data

When you download and use an app on your iPhone for the first time, you might be bombarded with prompts asking for permission to access other features on your phone like your camera. If you're like me and just want a new app to work you've probably tapped "Allow," which gives apps access to other information on yourself and those closest to you, more times than you'd like to admit. 

By granting access to this information, those apps could be sharing your data with digital marketing and ad tech companies without your knowledge. Companies like Apple and Facebook have faced lawsuits and fines for allegedly misusing customer data.

Even if you originally granted a third-party iPhone app certain permissions, you can easily revoke them anytime. Here's what to know.

How to change third-party app permissions

Here's how to change permissions in iOS 15 and later: 

1. Tap Settings on your iPhone.

2. Tap Privacy.

In the Privacy menu you can select functions like Contacts, Photos and Camera to see which third-party apps have requested permission to access this information. Tapping Contacts might show that a note taking app has access to the names and numbers of people in your contacts list. You can tap the slider next to these apps to halt access.

More in the Privacy menu

In addition to revoking app permissions in the Privacy menu, you can also customize which apps can access your location data. If you tap Location Services near the top of the menu, you can turn these services on or off for all or some apps on your phone. You can also tap the Share My Location menu to enable or disable Find My iPhone, as well as with which contacts you share your location.

There's also an option in the Privacy menu called Apple Advertising. Tap this to view Apple's ad targeting information, and turn these personalized ads on or off. Apple said turning personalized ads off will make ads you see in the App Store, Apple News and Stocks less relevant to you, but it might not reduce the number of ads you see in those apps.

For more, check out how to stop iPhone apps from tracking you, how to use Sign In With Apple to improve your privacy and the best iPhone VPNs. 

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iOS 15: Watch out for these 7 bugs after downloading the beta on your iPhone

iOS 15: Watch out for these 7 bugs after downloading the beta on your iPhone

Apple's latest iPhone software may be available just days after Apple's event on Tuesday, which is rumored to feature the iPhone 13 and Apple Watch 7. But, if you can't wait for the general release, the iOS 15 public beta is now live. (Here's how to download the iOS 15 public beta and how to check if your phone is compatible.) Just don't expect the operating system to work perfectly during the beta.

Apple disclosed a variety of known bugs in its iOS 15 release notes -- pretty standard for beta releases -- and there are likely more that aren't yet listed. We never recommend downloading a beta version of any software on your primary device due to bugs. In the case of iOS 15, you should only download this public beta if you have a second iPhone that you can use for testing -- not on your main device. 

Read more: iOS 15 beta on iPhone: 3 things you need to know before you install

Here are some of the problems to watch out for in the iOS 15 public beta and some workarounds from Apple. (If you download the beta and decide you don't like it or are having too many issues with battery life and other bugs, you can restore your iPhone to iOS 14.)

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Here are a few of the bigger issues you may find in iOS 15, according to Apple's developer release notes. 

Finder might become unresponsive

If you install the iOS 15 public beta using Restore Images, your Finder may not work properly. Apple's workaround is to install device support for iOS 15 beta, available from Apple's Beta Software Downloads page. 

Camera problems

In the camera app, live text may be unavailable. And if your iPhone is in Low Power mode, Panorama mode "might produce unexpected results," according to Apple. It did not list any workarounds. 

CarPlay connectivity

When you share your screen in a SharePlay session, connecting your phone to CarPlay might fail. Apple recommends that you stop screen-sharing before you connect your phone.

Files quitting

If you choose Open in New Window for a file, that file may quit unexpectedly. 

Find My network issues

In the iOS 15 beta, Notify When Left Behind isn't supported for Intel-based Macs or Apple Watches. Also, the text indicating that the Find My network is active when your iOS device needs to be charged only displays if your device language is set to English. 

Read more: Apple's Find My app can do more than locate a lost iPhone

Public betas help developers identify and fix bugs before wider launches. Here's what to look out for in the iOS 15 beta.

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Home screen widget problems

Apple noted a few different issues with widgets in the public beta. When you select a category in the widget gallery, you might see the wrong category appear, in which case you should dismiss and reopen the gallery. The home screen might also quit unexpectedly when you drag a widget from the gallery. 

SharePlay unavailable message

Apple noted several different problems with SharePlay in the beta, including that it might appear to be unavailable. (Try signing out of FaceTime and signing in again if that happens.) If more than five people are on a call, performance might drop. On some devices, your FaceTime camera may turn off when a screen-sharing session begins. 

Read more: Fun FaceTime date idea: Try Apple's new SharePlay feature in iOS 15

For more, check out all of iOS 15's best new features and every iPhone 13 rumor we've heard so far. If you're on the look out for latest on Apple Watch's operating system here's some cool features for WatchOS 8. We also have a guide to download the MacOS Monterey public beta and how to see if your computer is compatible with the new MacOS. If you already download the public beta, here are some of the best new things you can do with MacOS Monterey.

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Snapchat's users keep slipping away

Snapchat's users keep slipping away

Snapchat isn't the social media powerhouse it used to be.

The tech firm said Thursday that 186 million users logged into the ephemeral messaging app daily in the third quarter, down from 188 million users in the previous quarter. It's the second quarter in a row that Snapchat has seen a drop in the number of daily active users

Snap CEO Evan Spiegel said the drop mainly came from users who use the app on Android phones. The tech firm has been working on a new version of the app for Android users, but executives didn't say exactly when it would be released.

"The Android community represents a global growth opportunity for us and we are making good progress testing the application in select markets. We look forward to rolling it out when it's ready," Spiegel said during a conference call with analysts.

In August, the company reported its first decline in daily active users, which Spiegel blamed on an unpopular redesign of the app. At the same time, it's been facing stiff competition from Facebook-owned Instagram, which also has a feature that lets users post photos and videos that vanish in 24 hours.

The tech firm is expecting that daily active users will continue to fall in the fourth quarter.

Snapchat, which makes its money from ads, has been trying to get teens to spend more time on the site. In October, it released a list of 12 new shows making their debuts this fall. The company even sells video-capturing sunglasses called Spectacles. 

While the app is popular among 13- to 34-year-olds in the US and Europe, Spiegel said the company is trying to reach billions of people worldwide who aren't on the app. 

"We're trying to get the right mix of content," he said.

The good news on Thursday was that Snap's third-quarter net loss and revenue did better than expected.

Snapchat reported an adjusted loss of 12 cents per share, which was better than the loss of 14 cents per share analysts surveyed by Thomson Reuters expected on average. The company grew its revenue year-over-year by 43 percent to $298 million, above the $283.21 million forecast.

Still, investors weren't happy. The company's stock dropped more than 8 percent to $6.38 per share in after-hours trading.

First published Oct. 25 at 1:27 p.m. PT.
Update at 3:11 p.m. PT: Included remarks from Snap's conference call.

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